Minutes of Proceedings
Session: 2011/2012
Date: 31 May 2011
Venue: Room 21
The meeting opened in closed session at 1.30pm.
1. Apologies
Mr Samuel Gardiner
2. Minutes of the meeting held on 26 May 2011
Mr Lyttleconfirmed that he had voted in favour of the motion proposed by
Mr Clarke, and that he had not abstained. Subject to this amendment, members agreed the minutes of the meeting held on 26 May 2011.
3. Declaration of Interests
The Chairperson asked if members had any financial or other interests which are relevant to the work of the Committee to declare.
George Robinson declared that he was a member of Limavady Borough Council.
4. Inquiry into Standing Orders for Principal Deputy Speaker
1.32pm Mr Maginness joined the meeting.
The Committee considered an issues paper prepared by the Clerk, and agreed to consider each issue from the paper in turn. Members also considered a first draft of the revised/new Standing Orders prepared by Assembly Legal Services. Jonathan McMillen from Legal Services explained the draft amendments to Standing Orders and answered members’ questions as required.
Issue 1 – Protocol for addressing the Principal Deputy Speaker
The Chairperson proposed that in the revised Standing Orders, the Principal Deputy Speaker should be addressed as either Mr Principal Deputy Speaker, Madam Principal Deputy Speaker, or Principal Deputy Speaker.
The Committee divided. Ayes 7; Noes 2.
Ayes | Noes |
Trevor Clarke | Jim Allister |
Gerry Kelly | Alban Maginness |
Chris Lyttle | |
Oliver McMullan | |
Sue Ramsey | |
George Robinson | |
Mervyn Storey |
The proposal accordingly was agreed to.
Issue 2 – Number of Deputy Speakers
Agreed: Members agreed that thenumber of Deputy Speakers should
remain unchanged at three.
Issue 3 – Filling the post of Principal Deputy Speaker
It was proposed by Mr Allister that the post of Principal Deputy Speaker be filled by rotation among the existing Deputy Speakers on an annual basis.
The Committee divided. Ayes 2; Noes 3; Abstentions 4.
Ayes | Noes | Abstentions |
Jim Allister | Gerry Kelly | Trevor Clarke |
Alban Maginness | Oliver McMullan | Chris Lyttle |
Sue Ramsey | George Robinson | |
Mervyn Storey |
The proposal accordingly fell.
It was proposed by Mr Clarke that the Principal Deputy Speaker be selected from among the three elected Deputy Speakers.
The Committee divided. Ayes 7; Noes 2.
Ayes | Noes |
Trevor Clarke | Jim Allister |
Gerry Kelly | Alban Maginness |
Chris Lyttle | |
Oliver McMullan |
|
Sue Ramsey | |
George Robinson | |
Mervyn Storey |
The proposal accordingly was agreed to.
Issue 4 – Codifying the role of Principal Deputy Speaker
Agreed: Members agreed that no codification of the role of Principal Deputy Speaker be written into Standing Orders, but that this should be left to the discretion of the Speaker.
Issue 5 – Functions - the extent to which the functions of the Principal Deputy Speaker need to be spelled out in Standing Orders
Mr Clarke proposed Option A –
“Say nothing in Standing Orders and rely on the discretion of the Speaker.”
The Committee divided. Ayes 4; Noes 4.
Ayes | Noes |
Trevor Clarke | Gerry Kelly |
Chris Lyttle | Alban Maginness |
George Robinson | Oliver McMullan |
Mervyn Storey | Sue Ramsey |
The proposal accordingly fell.
Mr Kelly proposed Options B and C together –
“Specifythat when delegating duties the Principal Deputy Speaker will have first refusal.” (Option B) and;
“Specify responsibility of the Principal Deputy Speaker as Deputy Chairperson of the Business Committee.” (Option C)
The Committee divided. Ayes 3; Noes 6.
Ayes | Noes |
Gerry Kelly | Jim Allister |
Oliver McMullan | Trevor Clarke |
Sue Ramsey | Chris Lyttle |
Alban Maginness | |
George Robinson | |
Mervyn Storey |
The proposal accordingly fell.
The Chairperson suspended the meeting for five minutes in order to marshal a further proposal.
1.56pm Meeting suspended.
2.00pm Meeting reconvened in closed session with the same members present.
Mr Kelly proposed Option C –
“Specify responsibility of the Principal Deputy Speaker as Deputy Chairperson of the Business Committee.”
The Committee divided. Ayes 3; Noes 6.
Ayes | Noes |
Gerry Kelly | Jim Allister |
Oliver McMullan | Trevor Clarke |
Sue Ramsey | Chris Lyttle |
Alban Maginness | |
George Robinson | |
Mervyn Storey |
The proposal accordingly fell.
Issue 6 – Remuneration
Agreed: Members agreed that the office holder allowance/salary for the Principal Deputy Speaker should be the same as that of Deputy Speaker.
The Committee requested further related information be provided by Legal services for the next meeting.
5. Forward Work Programme
Agreed: It was agreed that the next meeting would proceed as set out in
the Forward Work Programme.
6. Any other Business
None.
7. Date, time and place of next meeting
It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would take place on Thursday, 2 June 2011 at 4.00pm in Room 21, Parliament Buildings.
The Chairperson adjourned the meeting at 2.20pm.