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Contents
Background
Introduction
Submissions from Party Groupings
Summary of Party views and propositions
- Status of the Union Flag
- Flags and the Belfast Agreement
- Positions on proposed Regulations under The Flags (NI)
Order 2000
ANNEX A - PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMITTEE RELATING
TO THE REPORT
ANNEX B – SUBMISSIONS FROM PARTY GROUPINGS
Ulster Unionist Party
Social Democratic and Labour Party
Democratic Unionist Party
Sinn Fein
Alliance Party
United Unionist Assembly Party
Northern Ireland Women’s Coalition
Progressive Unionist Party
ANNEX C – SUBMISSIONS FROM ORGANISATIONS
AND INDIVIDUALS
Lady Sylvia Hermon
Mr Austen Morgan
Mr Ivor Whitten, Chairman of Newry and Armagh Branch of the Ulster Young Unionist
Council
ANNEX D - MINUTES OF EVIDENCE (Thursday
5 October 2000)
Witnesses
Mrs Joan Harbison Chairperson, Equality Commission
Ms Evelyn Collins Chief Executive, Equality Commission
Mr Keith Brown Equality Commission
Mr Paul Donaghy Equality Commission
Mr Ciaran Bradley Equality Commission
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THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED BY THE
NORTHERN IRELAND ASSEMBLY HAS AGREED TO THE FOLLOWING REPORT -
BACKGROUND
1. The Committee was established on
11 September 2000 by the following resolution of the Northern Ireland Assembly
in plenary session :-
"That this Assembly appoints an Ad
Hoc Committee to consider the draft Regulations laid by the Secretary of State
under the Flags (Northern Ireland) Order 2000 and to submit a report to the
Assembly by 16 October 2000.
Composition:
Ulster Unionist Party 4
Social Democratic and Labour Party 4
Democratic Unionist Party 3
Sinn Fein 3
Alliance Party 1
Northern Ireland Unionist Party 1
United Unionist Assembly Party 1
Northern Ireland Women’s Coalition 1
Progressive Unionist Party 1
Quorum: The quorum shall be eight
Procedure: The procedures of the Committee
shall be such as the Committee shall determine."
2. The Membership of the Ad Hoc Committee
was as follows:-
UUP B Armstrong; Dr E Birnie; D Hussey;
K Robinson
SDLP A Attwood; J Dallat; A Maginness; E McGrady MP
DUP N Dodds; I Paisley Jnr; P Robinson MP
SF Ms M Gildernew; A Maskey; C Murphy
Alliance D Ford
NIUP No nomination
UUAP F Agnew
NIWC Ms J Morrice
PUP D Ervine
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INTRODUCTION
3. The Ad Hoc Committee held its first
meeting on 19 September. Mr F Agnew was elected as Chairperson and Mr D Ford
as Deputy Chairperson. It was also agreed that members could appoint deputies
and that meetings would be held in public.
4. The Committee met on 6 occasions.
The minutes of all of the meetings are contained in Annex A - Minutes of Proceedings.
5. At the meeting held on 25 September
it was decided that the Committee’s report should be based on a series of propositions
reflecting the differing views within the Committee, together with an indication
of the level of support for those views. The Party groupings on the Committee
agreed to make written submissions which would form the basis of the report.
(Annex B - Submissions from Party Groupings).
6. The Committee issued a press release
inviting written submissions on the proposed Regulations from organisations
and individuals. 3 submissions were received in response to this invitation.
(Annex C - Submissions from Organisations and Individuals)
7. The Committee also issued invitations
to the Secretary of State, Mr P Mandelson; the Head of the Northern Ireland
Civil Service, Mr G Loughran and the Chairperson of the Equality Commission,
Mrs J Harbison. The Secretary of State and the Head of the Northern Ireland
Civil Service were unable to attend. The Committee heard evidence from the Equality
Commission on Thursday 5 October 2000. (Annex D - Minutes of Evidence)
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SUBMISSIONS FROM PARTY GROUPINGS
8. Submissions were received from
the Ulster Unionist Party, Social Democratic and Labour Party, Democratic Unionist
Party, Sinn Fein, Alliance Party, United Unionist Assembly Party, Northern Ireland
Women’s Coalition and Progressive Unionist Party. These submissions contained
differing views and propositions on general issues in relation to the flying
of flags and on specific issues relating to the regulations that the Secretary
of State proposes to make under Article 3 of The Flags (Northern Ireland) Order.
A summary of the differing views and propositions is set out below under the
headings: -
- Status of the Union flag
- Flags and the Belfast Agreement
- Position on proposed Regulations under The Flags (Northern
Ireland) Order
SUMMARY OF PARTY VIEWS AND PROPOSITIONS
9. Status of the Union Flag
Ulster Unionist Party
The constitutional status of Northern
Ireland is not neutral. On the contrary, the constitutional status of Northern
Ireland is unambiguously stated as being "in its entirety" part of
the United Kingdom. The flying of the Union flag from government buildings is
the clear expression of that constitutional position.
Submission from Ulster Unionist Party
Social Democratic and Labour Party
The present constitutional position of
Northern Ireland does not in law or in practice legitimise the flying of the
Union flag from government buildings. The legal context to determine the display
of flags is:
(i) the "agreement between governments"
(British and Irish respectively) executed further to the Good Friday Agreement
and an international treaty binding in law.
(ii) the Good Friday Agreement
(iii) the relevant provisions of the
Northern Ireland Act 1998
(iv) Fair Treatment Order
(v) miscellaneous fair employment
legislative provisions
(vi) precedents of the Fair Employment
Tribunal
Submission from the Social Democratic
and Labour Party
Democratic Unionist Party
The Union flag is a constitutional symbol
recognised internationally. As an integral part of the United Kingdom the Union
flag is therefore the constitutional symbol for Northern Ireland and should
be accorded no less standing and acknowledgement than in any other part of the
Kingdom.
Submission from Democratic Unionist Party
Sinn Fein
The British flag, whatever political allegiance
it may convey, has been used by unionism as a symbol of political dominance
and a tool of sectarian coat trailing. Parity of esteem, equality, inclusivity
and the promotion of mutual respect should underpin future decisions on the
flying of flags at government and public buildings.
Submission from Sinn Fein
Alliance Party
Any proposal for the flying of flags in
Northern Ireland should take account of differing views within Northern Ireland
society, as well as precedent in other parts of the UK. The Good Friday Agreement
recognises that Northern Ireland is a deeply divided society, that mutual respect
should guide this society’s approach to the use of symbols and that symbols
are not to be used to stress dominance and exclusion. The Agreement also entrenches
the Principle of Consent: that Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK unless
and until its people decide otherwise. While the Union flag gives formal recognition
to Northern Ireland status as part of the UK, the use of shared symbols - such
as the European and a new Northern Ireland flag - should be encouraged.
Submission from Alliance Party
United Unionist Assembly Party
The flying of the Union flag is the most
visible and outward expression of Northern Ireland’s constitutional position
within the United Kingdom.
Submission from United Unionist Assembly
Party
Northern Ireland Women’s Coalition
The Good Friday Agreement, in affirming
and assuring the status of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom, also
established institutions, in particular the Assembly, whereby power is shared
between communities of different political allegiances. There is no doubt that
Northern Ireland is very different from other parts of the UK and this difference
should be reflected in the flags debate.
Submission from Northern Ireland Women’s
Coalition
Progressive Unionist Party
The Union flag is a both a national and
international constitutional symbol that identifies its people and territory.
As an integral part of the United Kingdom, we believe the Union flag should
be flown here on the same designated days as the rest of the United Kingdom.
Submission from Progressive Unionist Party
10. Flags and the Belfast Agreement
Ulster Unionist Party
Both the consent principle and the need
to use symbols with sensitivity as set out in the Belfast Agreement have to
be honoured in the new flags Regulations.
The suggestion that a neutral flag should
be agreed and flown on government buildings is wholly unacceptable in that it
fails completely to honour the principle of consent as expressed in the opening
paragraph of the Belfast Agreement. The constitutional status of Northern Ireland
is not neutral. On the contrary, the constitutional status of Northern Ireland
is unambiguously stated as being "in its entirety" part of the United
Kingdom.
The demand that both the tricolour and
the Union flag be flown together on Government buildings clearly breaches the
Belfast Agreement. The Agreement neither agrees nor advocates joint sovereignty.
Instead, the Agreement makes it abundantly clear that it is the United Kingdom
and the United Kingdom alone, which has sovereignty over Northern Ireland unless
and until a majority of its people consents otherwise. There is, therefore,
no basis whatsoever in the Belfast Agreement for the flying of both the Union
flag and the tricolour routinely on such buildings, or another flag other than
the Union flag on all Government Buildings.
Submission from Ulster Unionist Party
Social Democratic and Labour Party
The Good Friday Agreement and sub paragraphs
(i), (iii), (iv) and (vi), set out under the SDLP heading at paragraph 9 of
this report, provide clear and compelling principles, which should inform and
lead to a solution to the flags issue, a solution that respects the identity
of each citizen and community.
This issue therefore requires to be determined
"with rigorously impartiality on behalf of all the people in the diversity
of the identities and traditions…..founded on principles of full respect for
and equality of civil, political, social and cultural rights, of freedom from
discrimination for all citizens and of parity of esteem and of just and equal
treatment for the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities…. (recognise)
the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves
and be accepted as Irish or British or both.
To reach the point whereby respective
flags, symbols and emblems will be honoured, or that common flags, symbols and
emblems can be agreed, can only be achieved within an environment created by
full implementation of the Good Friday Agreement and the agreement between Governments.
Submission from Social Democratic and
Labour Party
Democratic Unionist Party
The fact that the issue of flying the
Union flag should ever arise is indicative of the folly of the Belfast Agreement.
It is by virtue of the unaccountable authority vested in Ministers that this
situation has been allowed to occur. The Union flag is the flag of the United
Kingdom and should be accorded its place on Government Buildings.
Submission from Democratic Unionist Party
Sinn Fein
Any approach to the issue of flags should
be set firmly within the context of the Good Friday Agreement
The Good Friday Agreement recognises that
Northern Ireland is not "as British as Finchley" and therefore the
norms applied to the flying of flags at government buildings in Britain are
not appropriate to the North of Ireland.
The Agreement is a contract between enemies
and opponents who hold different allegiances. Parity of esteem, equality, inclusivity
and the promotion of mutual respect should underpin future decisions on the
flying of flags at government and public buildings
Submission from Sinn Fein
Alliance Party
The Good Friday Agreement recognises that
Northern Ireland is a deeply divided society, that mutual respect should guide
this society’s approach to the use of symbols and that symbols are not to be
used to stress dominance and exclusion.
The Agreement also entrenches the Principle
of Consent: that Northern Ireland remains a part of the United Kingdom unless
and until its people decide otherwise.
Alliance believes that any Regulations
for flying flags on government buildings should:
- recognise the Principle of Consent;
- minimise feelings of either dominance or exclusion;
and
- promote pluralism and those symbols which unite the
community.
Submission from the Alliance Party
United Unionist Assembly Party
The United Unionist Group in the Northern
Ireland Assembly was opposed to the Belfast Agreement, and one of its principal
concerns was the threat to the constitutional position of Northern Ireland within
the United Kingdom.
It is claimed that the Belfast Agreement
recognises the right of the majority of people in Northern Ireland to retain
the link with the United Kingdom on the basis of the consent principle. The
mere fact that the flying of the Union flag in Northern Ireland is an issue
would imply that there are those who have signed up to the Belfast Agreement
who do not recognise the Principle of Consent.
Submission from United Unionist Assembly
Party
Northern Ireland Women’s Coalition
The Good Friday Agreement, in affirming
and assuring the status of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom, also
established institutions, in particular the Assembly, whereby power is shared
between communities of different political allegiances. There is no doubt that
Northern Ireland is very different from other parts of the United Kingdom and
this difference should be reflected in the flags debate.
The Agreement clearly establishes the
constitutional status of Northern Ireland, but also recognises and allows for
the different political and allegiances to be represented within that.
Unionists, nationalists and ‘others’,
should be assured that the future, and how it will be represented symbolically,
should be about ‘us’ and any new shared future will require new shared symbols
- symbols that will be created and agreed together. We recognise, however, that
this is a long-term aspiration that the Good Friday Agreement signposts.
Submission from Northern Ireland Women’s
Coalition
Progressive Unionist Party
The Progressive Unionist Party’s view
of the flags issue cannot be divorced from its vision for the future based on
the Good Friday Agreement and the parameters therein.
The healing process, which the Agreement
was meant to be, is seriously hampered by the continued resurrection of divisive
issues – especially if those issues are hyped to one’s own constituency as make
or break.
Nationalists have accepted the will of
the people that Northern Ireland is an integral part of the United Kingdom.
It was therefore unnecessary to set up a committee to deal with the issue of
flying the Union flag, the National flag, on the same designated days as the
rest of the United Kingdom.
Submission from Progressive Unionist Party
11. Position on proposed Regulations
under The Flags (Northern Ireland) Order
Ulster Unionist Party
The Ulster Unionist Party welcomes the
Draft Regulations as a step towards closing loop holes with respect to flag
flying. They attempt to place official flag flying in Northern Ireland on the
same footing as the rest of the United Kingdom. The UUP has some concerns about
the regulations as currently drafted and proposes the following amendments –
- Article 5 (1)(a) should be amended to ensure that a
flag being flown in addition to the Union flag cannot be flown at the same
or superior height or position to the Union flag. (DUP, PUP, UUAP)
- The Draft Regulations should be amended to ensure that
the Union flag is required to be flown at Parliament Buildings. (DUP, PUP,
UUAP)*
- Article 2(2) should include a provision to ensure that
buildings brought into the government estate in the future are covered by these
regulations. (DUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- The absence of sanctions from the regulations is unacceptable.
The regulations should be amended to clarify the position of Ministers by reference
to his/her pledge of office. (DUP, UUAP)*
Submission from Ulster Unionist Party
Social Democratic and Labour Party
The SDLP does not agree with the Draft
Regulations that the Union flag should be displayed on government buildings.
The option of flying both flags, further consideration of an agreed flag, or
the flying of only the union flag or the tricolour only or both by agreement
should be further considered. If the Secretary of State wishes to issue the
Draft regulations , the following amendments should be made:
- The regulations should be time limited for one year
in the first instance and reviewed thereafter. (NIWC, Alliance)*
- Draft Regulation 2(2) and 7 should be deleted in the
light of the submission of the Equality Commission (Alliance)*.
- The flying of both the Union flag and the Irish tricolour
should be permitted on buildings hosting meetings of the British-Irish Council,
North-South Ministerial Council bodies and other British-Irish and North-South
institutions established under the agreement.
- The Union flag should not be displayed on Departmental
buildings but if such display should be permitted then that display should
be on a restricted number of government buildings and that display should be
on a restricted number of days
Submission from Social Democratic and
Labour Party
Democratic Unionist Party
The DUP does not accept that the issue
of flying of the Union flag from government buildings is an issue that should
have to be regulated by law. The Union flag is a constitutional symbol recognised
internationally. As an integral part of the United Kingdom the Union flag is
therefore the constitutional symbol for Northern Ireland and should be accorded
no less standing and acknowledgement than in any other part of the Kingdom.
If the regulations are to be made, the following propositions should be incorporated.
- The Union flag shall be flown on all Government Buildings
on the specified days. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)
- The specified days will be those days on which it was
the practice to fly the Union flag in the period of the 12 months ending with
30th November 1999. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- No other State’s flag, except with the express permission
of the Assembly, shall be flown on Government Buildings. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- The Union flag shall be flown in the manner and style
which was the practice in the period of the 12 months ending with 30th November
1999. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- Where the flag was not previously flown over a Government
Building the flag should be flown in the manner it is flown at other Government
Buildings. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- The Premises Officer shall be appointed to ensure the
flag is flown in the manner and on the days required. This responsibility shall
be a duty of his service. (UUP, PUP, UUAP, Alliance)*
- The European flag shall not be flown, except with the
express permission of the Assembly. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- There shall be no prohibition on the flying of the Union
flag on Government Buildings at any time. (UUAP)*
- The Union flag shall be flown at Parliament Buildings,
Stormont on all plenary sitting days of the Assembly. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
- The Union flag shall be flown at half mast on all Government
Buildings following the death of a member of the Royal Family, or of a serving
or former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom on such days as notified in
the Belfast Gazette. (UUP, PUP, UUAP)*
Submission from Democratic Unionist Party
Sinn Fein
Sinn Fein’s view is that where British
cultural symbols are involved in public life, equivalent Irish cultural and
political symbols should be given equal prominence. If agreement or consensus
cannot be found on this, then a reasonable alternative, which meets the required
criteria, would be to suspend the flying of flags until agreement or consensus
can be found.
The position on the flying of flags at
government and public buildings should be based on either an equality or a neutrality
scenario. The Secretary of State’s draft Regulations do not address this in
any constructive way and should be rejected.
Submission from Sinn Fein
Alliance Party
The Alliance Party broadly welcomes the
Draft Regulations referred to the Assembly by the Secretary of State. The decision
not to include 12th July in Part II of the Schedule is welcomed as a means of
reducing feelings of exclusion. The following amendments are suggested.
- Regulation 2 should be amended to include an additional
regulation 2(5) to provide for the flying of St Patrick’s Flag on 17 March,
on the same basis as the European Flag on Europe Day.
- Suggested wording:
"Where a government building specified
in Part I of the Schedule has more than one flag pole, St Patrick’s Flag shall
be flown in addition to the Union Flag on St Patrick’s Day."
- A consequential amendment would be required at regulation
5(1)(a). Amend to read "where regulation 2(4), 2(5) or 3(2)"
- The inclusion of a reference in regulation 7 to regulation
3(1), which would permit the flying of the Union flag at other government buildings,
on the occasion of a visit by a Head of State other than Her Majesty the Queen,
appears unnecessary and divisive and should be deleted. (NIWC)
- Similarly, in Regulation 8 the inclusion of a reference
to Regulation 3 (2) appears unnecessary and divisive, however the proposed
regulation 2(5) should be included.
Submission from the Alliance Party
United Unionist Assembly Party
There is real concern within the Protestant
and Unionist community that the issue of flying the Union flag necessitates
any kind of discussion – the flying of the national flag should never merit
negotiation at all. If the regulations are to be made the following amendments
are suggested.
- The Regulations should provide for the Union flag should
be flown on the 1st July on the anniversary of the Battle of the
Somme (UUP, DUP, PUP)*
- The Union flag should also be flown at Stormont and
preferably on all sitting days. (UUP, DUP, PUP)*
- The regulations should contain a provision to deal with
a situation where the regulations are not followed and include a specification
as to how the offending Minister shall be reprimanded should his / her department
not fly the flag. (UUP, DUP)*
- The definition of ‘Government Building’ should be rectified
to include Parliament Buildings and indeed any building where a Minister holds
office. The term ‘Government Building’ should be inclusive of Local Government
Offices and other Public Authorities, for example Education and Library Boards.
(UUP, DUP)*
- No other flag, aside from the Royal Standard in the
event of a visit by Her Majesty the Queen, should be flown at any government
building except by the prior approval of the Northern Ireland Assembly. (DUP,
PUP)*
- The Union flag should certainly be flown at least on
all designated days; there should be no prohibition to its flying on Government
Buildings at any time. (DUP)*
Submission from United Unionist Assembly
Party
Northern Ireland Women’s Coalition
The Women’s Coalition recommends that
the proposed regulations should only be regarded as a holding measure but also
holds the view that perpetuating the status quo (i.e. flying one flag) is not
a sustainable long-term option. More time must be allowed, particularly for
the Assembly, to seek to reach a more generally acceptable outcome in the longer
term. The following amendment is proposed.
- The regulations should be introduced as a holding measure
for a twelve-month period only. (Alliance)*
Submission from Northern Ireland Women’s
Coalition
Progressive Unionist Party
It is a matter of regret that it has proved
necessary to introduce Regulations to ensure that the position in Northern Ireland
is no different than the rest of the United Kingdom, in relation to flying the
Union Flag.
- The Union flag should be flown at least in the same
manner and on the same designated days as the rest of the United Kingdom. (UUP)*
Submission from Progressive Unionist Party
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ANNEX A
PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMITTEE
RELATING TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS RELATING
TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE FIRST MEETING
OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLAGS (NI) ORDER
HELD IN THE SENATE CHAMBER, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
ON TUESDAY 19 SEPTEMBER 2000
Present: Mr F Agnew (Chairman)
Mr D Hussey
Mr B Armstrong
Mr A Maginness
Mr A Attwood
Mr A Maskey
Dr E Birnie
Mr E McGrady
Mr J Dallat
Ms J Morrice
Mr N Dodds
Mr C Murphy
Mr D Ervine
Mr I Paisley Jnr
Mr D Ford (Deputy Chairman)
Mr K Robinson
Ms M Gildernew
Mr P Robinson
In Attendance: Mr M Rickard (Clerk to the Committee) Miss
J Adair
Mrs G Ardis Miss L Tracey
The Committee met at 10.35 am.
1. Election of Chairman and Deputy Chairman
The Clerk opened the meeting by introducing himself and
the other Committee staff in attendance. Following agreement by the Committee,
the Clerk conducted the election of the Chairman and Deputy Chairman in accordance
with the relevant provisions contained within the Assembly’s Standing Orders.
Nominations for Chairman.
1.1. Mr P Robinson proposed Mr F Agnew for Chairman.
This was seconded by Mr K Robinson. Mr E McGrady proposed Mr D Ford for Chairman.
This was seconded by Ms J Morrice.
The members indicated their preference by a show of hands.
The following votes were cast:-
Mr F Agnew 9 votes
Mr D Ford 8 votes
Mr F Agnew was elected as Chairman.
Nominations for Deputy Chairman.
1.2. Mr B Armstrong proposed Mr D Hussey for Deputy
Chairman. This was seconded by Mr F Agnew. Mr E McGrady proposed Mr
D Ford for Deputy Chairman. This was seconded by Mr A Maskey.
The Members indicated their preference by a show of hands.
The following votes were cast:-
Mr D Hussey 8 votes
Mr D Ford 9 votes
Mr D Ford was elected as Deputy Chairman.
The newly elected Chairman took the Chair.
2. Determination of Committee Procedure.
Following a briefing from the Clerk, the Chairman asked
for the Committee Members views on the following aspects of the Committee’s
procedures.
Terms of Reference
The Chairman reminded Members of the Committee’s Terms
of Reference. Members indicated that they would wish to make comment on the
question of the Secretary of State’s intention to make these Regulations.
Public Meetings
2.1. It was proposed and agreed the meetings of the
Committee should be held in public.
Power to call witnesses
2.2. Following discussion on the question of the Committee’s
power to call witnesses it was agreed that the Clerk would clarify the position
and report back at the next meeting.
Mr J Dallat joined the meeting at 10.48 am.
Deputies
2.3. The Committee agreed that in the unavoidable absence
of Committee Members deputies may attend. However, given the tight time scale
to which the Committee was working and so to avoid the rebriefings having to
take place at Committee meetings members agreed that it is the responsibility
of each party to brief its substitute Committee member.
Voting
2.3.1. Following discussion the Committee agreed that
the Clerk should research and establish the voting practices of other Assembly
Committees particularly in relation to the handling of reports.
Format of Report
2.4. This will be an issue for discussion at a future
meeting.
3. Work Programme
On request from the Chairman the Clerk briefed the Committee
on the possible time scale of the work programme.
Members noted that the time was very limited and the key
milestones to be met if the Committee is to report by 16 October.
The work programme took account of these points and the
availability of staff and accommodation.
Members indicated general discontent with the use of the
Senate Chamber and suggested using other Committee Rooms.
It was agreed that the Clerk should explore the availability
of other Committee Rooms in Parliament Buildings.
4. Date of Next Meeting
The next meeting of the Committee will be held on Monday
25 September 2000 at 4.00 pm. The Clerk will confirm the venue with Members
as soon as possible.
The meeting closed at 11.10 am.
MR FRASER AGNEW
Committee Chairman
25 September 2000
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS RELATING
TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE SECOND MEETING
OF THE
AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLAGS (NI) ORDER
HELD IN THE SENATE CHAMBER, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
ON MONDAY 25 SEPTEMBER 2000
Present: Mr F Agnew (Chairman) Mr B Hutchinson
Mr B Armstrong
Mr E McGrady
Mr A Attwood
Mr A Maginness
Dr E Birnie
Mr A Maskey
Mr J Dallat
Ms J Morrice
Mr N Dodds
Mr C Murphy
Mr D Ford (Deputy Chairman)
Mr I Paisley Jnr
Ms M Gildernew
Mr K Robinson
Mr D Hussey
Mr P Robinson
In Attendance: Mr M Rickard (Clerk to the Committee) Miss
J Adair
Mrs G Ardis Miss L Tracey
The Committee met at 4.05 pm.
1. Apologies/Substitutions
The Chairman welcomed Mr Hutchinson who was substituting
for Mr Ervine at the meeting.
2. Minutes of meeting of 19 September 2000
The minutes of the meeting of 19 September 2000 were
agreed.
Mr Hussey joined the meeting at 4.10 pm.
3. Matters Arising from the Minutes of Proceedings
3.1. The Chairman stated that the Assembly’s legal
adviser is available to provide advice and information on the content of the
draft Regulations. The members were informed by the Clerk that the Committee
did not have the power to call witnesses. However the NIO had indicated that
it will consider any request from the Committee for further information on the
draft Regulations.
After some further discussion it was agreed that the Committee
would invite the Secretary of State, Head of the Northern Ireland Civil Service
and the Chairman of the Equality Commission to give evidence to the Committee
on the draft Regulations.
It was also agreed that the Chairman should issue a press
release inviting written submissions from organisations or individuals on the
proposed Regulations.
It was acknowledged that due to the very short time available
it may not be possible to arrange for the attendance of those to give oral evidence.
3.2. Accommodation
The Chairman confirmed that there were no other suitable
rooms available that would increase the number of dates and times available
for meetings.
3.3. Voting
It was agreed that the Committee would follow Standing
Orders. Decisions requiring a vote would be taken by a simple majority and indicated
by a show of hands.
The meeting was opened to the public at 4.20 pm.
Mr Dallat joined the meeting at 4.20 pm.
4. Discussion of Committee Work Programme and Related
Issues
A wide ranging discussion took place on how the Committee
would take its work forward.
It was proposed that each group within the Committee would
set out a series of propositions to reflect their respective views on the draft
Regulations. These could be amended if desired following the consideration of
the oral and written evidence.
The series of propositions would then form the basis of
the Committee’s report. This proposal was subject to a vote with a show of hands
indicating that 11 members were in support whilst 7 members were against.
The Committee therefore resolved that the Clerk would
proceed to obtain the information in accordance with this decision.
5. Date of Next Meeting
The Committee agreed that the Chairman and Clerk would
liase about the date of the next meeting as it would be dependent on the availability
of those to be invited to give oral evidence.
The meeting closed at 4.40 pm.
FRASER AGNEW
Committee Chairman
2 October 2000
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS RELATING
TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE THIRD MEETING
OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLAGS (NI) ORDER
HELD IN THE SENATE CHAMBER, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
ON MONDAY 2 OCTOBER 2000
Present: Mr F Agnew (Chairman) Mr D Ford (Deputy
Chairman)
Mr B Armstrong
Ms M Gildernew
Mr A Attwood
Mr D Hussey
Dr E Birnie
Ms J Morrice
Mr J Dallat
Mr C Murphy
Mr N Dodds
Mr I Paisley Jnr
Mr A Doherty
Mr P Robinson
Mr D Ervine
Mr J Tierney
In Attendance: Mr M Rickard (Clerk to the Committee) Miss
J Adair
Mrs G Ardis Miss L Tracey
The Committee met at 4.05 pm.
1. Apologies/Substitutions
The Chairman welcomed Mr Doherty and Mr Tierney who were
substituting for Mr McGrady and Mr Maginness.
2. Minutes of meeting of 25 September 2000
The minutes of the meeting of 25 September 2000 were agreed.
3. Matters Arising from the Minutes of Proceedings
The Chairman reported that the Clerk had written on 26
September 2000 to the Secretary of State, Head of the Civil Service and the
Chairperson of the Equality Commission inviting them to appear before the Committee.
The Secretary of State’s Office had responded saying that
due to pre-existing diary commitments he would be unable to attend.
This response had been copied to members.
To date no response to the invitation had been received
from the Head of the Civil Service.
The Chairman added that Mrs Joan Harbison, Chairperson
of the Equality Commission, had agreed to attend the meeting scheduled for Thursday
5 October. To aid the preparation for the meeting Mrs Harbison has asked that
if members have any specific questions or issues they would wish to raise with
the Equality Commission, it would be helpful to receive these in advance of
the meeting. The Chairman asked members to pass these to the Clerk. However
it was emphasised that members were free to ask any additional questions at
Thursday’s meeting.
Mr Ervine joined the meeting at 4.12 pm.
Following discussion on the interpretation of the proposal
supported by the majority of members at the Committee’s previous meeting it
was agreed that the Clerk would obtain a transcript of that meeting for clarification.
Mr Dodds joined the meeting at 4.16 pm.
Unfortunately due to unforeseen circumstances the Assembly
Legal Advisor was unable to attend the meeting.
4. Update on submissions received on Proposed Regulations
Members had received a copy of the Press Release issued
by the Chairman on 26 September seeking written submissions from organisations
and individuals.
To date no submissions have been received.
It was acknowledged that the very short timescale precluded
any further possible press coverage.
Only one submission had been received from groupings within
the Committee from Mr Ford of the Alliance Party.
The Chairman stressed that these submissions are needed
by end of business on Wednesday 4 October to enable an initial draft of the
Committee’s Report to be prepared to meet the deadline of 13 October. All groupings
confirmed that they did intend to submit their views.
It was noted that the Secretary of State had offered in
his response to consider any written questions the Committee may have but given
the lack of time available it was not considered to be a worthwhile exercise.
However it was felt that the Head of the Civil Service
should be again asked to ascertain if he was unavailable to attend the next
meeting.
5. Date of Next Meeting
The next meeting of the Committee is to be held on Thursday
5 October at 2.30 pm in the Senate Chamber.
The meeting closed at 4.29 pm.
FRASER AGNEW
Committee Chairman
5 October 2000
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS RELATING
TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE FOURTH MEETING
OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLAGS (NI) ORDER
HELD IN THE SENATE CHAMBER, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
ON THURSDAY 5 OCTOBER 2000
Present: Mr F Agnew (Chairman) Mr B McElduff
Mr B Armstrong
Mr A Maginness
Mr A Attwood
Ms J Morrice
Mr N Dodds
Mr C Murphy
Mr D Ford (Deputy Chairman)
Mr I Paisley Jnr
Ms M Gildernew
Mr K Robinson
Sir J Gorman
Mr P Robinson
Mr D Hussey
Mr J Tierney
Mrs P Lewsley
In Attendance: Mr M Rickard (Clerk to the Committee) Miss
J Adair
Mrs G Ardis Miss L Tracey
The Committee met at 2.38 pm.
1. Apologies/Substitutions
The Chairman welcomed Mrs P Lewsley, Mr J Tierney and
Sir John Gorman who were substituting for Mr J Dallat, Mr E McGrady and
Dr E Birnie.
2. Minutes of meeting of 2 October 2000
The minutes of the meeting of 2 October 2000 were agreed.
3. Presentation by the Equality Commission
The Chairman welcomes Mrs Harbison, Chairperson of the
Equality Commission, and her colleagues to the meeting.
Ms Gildernew joined the meeting at 2.43 pm.
Mrs Harbison began the presentation by introducing her
colleagues who accompanied her. They were Chief Executive Ms Evelyn Collins,
Mr Paul Donaghy, Mr Keith Brown and Mr Ciaran Bradley. Mrs Harbison went on
to detail information on current relevant provisions within the Commission’s
statutory remit and make comment on the proposed Flags Regulations.
There then followed a question and answer session during
which Mrs Harbison stated that copies of the Commission’s address would be made
available to Committee members at the end of the presentation.
Mr Murphy left the meeting at 2.53 pm and returned at
2.56 pm.
Mr Hussey joined the meeting at 3.05 pm.
Mr McElduff joined the meeting at 3.26 pm and left at
3.37 pm.
Ms Gildernew left the meeting at 3.50 pm and returned
at 3.55 pm.
At the conclusion of the question and answer session the
Chairman thanked Mrs Harbison and her colleagues for their attendance.
The Equality Commission members left the meeting at 4.05
pm.
Mrs Lewsley and Mr Maginness left the meeting at 4.05
pm.
4. Matters Arising from the Previous Minutes of Proceedings
The Chairman reported that a response had been received
from Mr Loughran, Head of the Civil Service that he was unable to attend the
Committee on the offered dates.
Following discussion on this issue Committee members expressed
their strong dissatisfaction with Mr Loughran’s decision not to attend and that
some members of the media knew of this decision before the Committee did.
Members stated that if time had permitted the Committee
would have sought the power to call witnesses.
The Chairman asked that Mr Robinson’s comment regarding
his request for the Committee to obtain a copy of the Rt Hon John Taylor’s document
on policing and flags be noted.
The Chairman asked the Clerk to clarify the proposal that
was put to the meeting on 25 September.
The Clerk read from the initial verbatim version of the
proceedings and following some discussion it was agreed that the report would
set out a series of propositions reflecting the views within the Committee and
the level of support for those views.
5. Update on Submissions received on Proposed Regulations
The Chairman confirmed that submissions had been received
from all the groupings represented in the Committee.
Three external submissions were received in response to
the Press Release.
6. Chairman’s Business
Following discussion on the way forward the Clerk was
instructed to prepare an initial draft of the Committee Report that draws out
the various propositions contained within each grouping’s submission.
17. Date of Next Meeting
The next meeting of the Committee is to be held on Monday,
9 October at 4.00 pm in the Senate Chamber.
The meeting closed at 4.20 pm.
FRASER AGNEW
Committee Chairman
9 October 2000
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS RELATING
TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE FIFTH MEETING
OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLAGS (NI) ORDER
HELD IN THE SENATE CHAMBER, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
ON MONDAY 9 OCTOBER 2000
Present: Mr F Agnew (Chairman) Mr C Murphy
Mr A Attwood Mr I Paisley Jnr
Mr A Doherty Mr K Robinson
Mr D Ford (Deputy Chairman) Mr P Robinson
Mr J Kelly Mr J Shannon
Mr A Maginness
In Attendance: Mr M Rickard (Clerk to the Committee) Mrs
C Darrah
Mrs G Ardis Miss L Tracey
The Committee met at 4.02 pm.
1. Apologies/Substitutions
The Chairman welcomed Mr A Doherty, Mr J Shannon and Mr
J Kelly who were substituting for Mr J Dallat, Mr N Dodds and Ms M Gildernew.
2. Minutes of meeting of 5 October 2000
The minutes of the meeting of 5 October 2000 were agreed.
3. Matters Arising from the Minutes of Proceedings
The Chairman asked the members to note that the Press
had reported on the Committee’s dissatisfaction at the fact both the Secretary
of State and Mr Loughran, Head of the Civil Service were unable to attend a
meeting of the Committee.
4. Discussion of the Draft Committee Report
The Chairman stated that the Clerk had, as agreed, at
the last Committee Meeting, produced a draft report.
Mr K Robinson joined the meeting at 4.05 pm.
As the draft report had been circulated that morning it
was agreed that members did not have enough time to fully consider its content.
Mr I Paisley Jnr left the meeting at 4.06 pm.
The Chairman reminded members of the deadline for the
production of the report.
Mr A Maginness joined the meeting at 4.07 pm.
It was agreed to adjourn the meeting until the following
morning to allow for a fuller discussion of the draft report.
5. Date of Next Meeting
The next meeting of the Committee is to be held on Tuesday
10 October at 10.30 am in the Senate Chamber.
The meeting closed at 4.10 pm.
FRASER AGNEW
Committee Chairman
10 October 2000
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS RELATING
TO THE REPORT
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE SIXTH MEETING
OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLAGS (NI) ORDER
HELD IN THE SENATE CHAMBER, PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
ON TUESDAY 10 OCTOBER 2000
Present: Mr F Agnew (Chairman) Mr D McClarty
Mr B Armstrong Mr E McGrady
Dr E Birnie Ms J Morrice
Mr J Dallat Mr C Murphy
Mr N Dodds Mr M Murphy
Mr D Ervine Mr I Paisley Jnr
Mr D Ford (Deputy Chairman) Mr K Robinson
Mr J Kelly Mr P Robinson
Mr A Maginness Mr J Tierney
Mr A Maskey
In Attendance: Mr M Rickard (Clerk to the Committee) Mrs
C Darrah
Mrs G Ardis Miss L Tracey
The Committee met at 10.35 am.
1. Apologies/Submissions
The Chairman welcomed Mr D McClarty and Mr M Murphy who
were substituting for Mr Hussey and Ms Gildernew.
Mr E McGrady joined the meeting at 10.37 am.
2. Minutes of Meeting Held on 9 October 2000
The minutes of the meeting of 9 October 2000 were agreed.
3. Discussion of the Draft Committee Report
The Chairman opened the meeting by reminding members of
the need to finalise the draft report at this meeting.
Discussion surrounding the draft Report’s format noted
that the sections relating to the "Status of the Union Flags" and
"Flags and the Belfast Agreement" were in effect statements of the
various groupings’ positions.
The Chairman asked members to indicate if they wished
to make any amendments to these two sections of the draft Report.
Mr K Robinson and Mr A Maginness joined the meeting at
10.39 am.
Dr E Birnie joined the meeting at 10.40 am.
Mr Tierney joined the meeting at 10.41 am as a substitute
for Mr A Attwood.
SDLP provided a paper as a replacement to the Party’s
views and propositions in the draft Report as a result of evidence heard from
the Equality Commission.
Alliance, Sinn Fein and Women’s Coalition provided minor
amendments to their submissions.
The Committee then discussed the method of how the level
of support for each of the Party Groupings’ positions on the proposed regulations
would be assessed.
The Committee was unable to reach a conclusion on this
issue and the Chairman adjourned the meeting for a period of approximately 10
minutes to consider the best way forward.
The meeting closed at 11.35 am.
The meeting resumed at 11.49 am.
Mr J Kelly joined the meeting as substitution for Mr A
Maskey.
A proposal by Mr D Ervine and seconded by Mr E McGrady
that a Report based on the submissions to the Committee should be sent as a
Report to the Assembly was defeated by 9 votes to 8.
The Chairman stated that he intended to test the level
of support for each of the propositions at Section 11 of the draft Report. Sinn
Fein and SDLP declared that they would not be participating in the procedure
to test levels of support.
Ms J Morrice joined the meeting at 11.53 am.
The other groupings in the Committee then proceeded to
indicate those propositions at Section 11 which they were able to support.
The Chairman informed Committee members of the following
motion that he intended to introduce to the Assembly in week commencing 16 October
2000.
"that this Assembly agrees that the Report of the
Ad Hoc Committee set up to consider the draft Regulations laid by the Secretary
of State under the Flags (Northern Ireland) Order should be submitted to the
Secretary of State as a Report of the Northern Ireland Assembly"
The Committee agreed to proceed on that basis and that
the draft Report should be amended to take account of changes discussed at the
meeting.
4. Chairman’s Business
The Chairman concluded the meeting by thanking members
and the Committee staff for their assistance in enabling the Committee to arrive
at this Report.
The meeting closed at 12.16 pm.
FRASER AGNEW
Committee Chairman
11 October 2000
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ANNEX B
SUBMISSIONS FROM
PARTY GROUPINGS
AD HOC COMMITTEE ON DRAFT REGULATIONS PROPOSED
UNDER THE FLAGS (NORTHERN IRELAND) ORDER 2000
WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY:
ULSTER UNIONIST PARTY
Introduction
This submission provides the UUP view on the current state
of legislation relating to flags and especially the draft Flags Regulations.
Whilst we welcome the general spirit of these Regulations we have some concern
as to details. These concerns are as follows:
- the national flag of a visiting Head of State,
- list of government buildings,
- definition of a "government building",
- standing of buildings brought into government use in
the future,
- absence of sanctions.
How was it that two Sinn Fein Ministers reject proper
requests to fly the Union Flag from their departmental buildings, and do so
with impunity? How will the position be altered by the Flags Regulations (Northern
Ireland) 2000 as proposed by Peter Mandelson recently on 8th September?
And, do these Regulations put an end to the flying of the tricolour, the flag
of a foreign country, in nationalist and republican areas of Northern Ireland?
Finding the answers to such questions leads one into complexity.
Consequently, it may be helpful to look at the legal position for three different
sets of circumstances: -
1. Flags in public places
2. Flags from Government Buildings
3. The flying of flags by public authorities, and in
particular District Councils
Consideration of each of these areas in turn should end
much of the confusion and misunderstanding surrounding the flying of the Union
flag.
Flags in public places
The former Stormont Parliament in 1954 enacted the Flags
and Emblems (Display) Act (Northern Ireland). It had two main purposes. First,
it made it a criminal offence to interfere with the Union flag, and secondly
it also made it an offence to display any provocative emblem, such as the tricolour.
This Act continued in force for 33 years, giving rise
to the widespread belief amongst Unionists that it is still an offence to fly
the tricolour. No matter how genuinely held this belief may be, it is nevertheless
mistaken.
As long ago as 1987 – eleven years before the Belfast
Agreement – the Flags and Emblems (Display) Act (Northern Ireland) was
repealed in its entirety by Article 27 of new public order legislation here
in Northern Ireland. Since then, the Public Order (N.I.) Order 1987 has
made it an offence for
"A person who in any public place or at or in relation
to any public meeting or public procession … displays anything … with
intent to provoke a breach of the peace or by which a breach of the peace or
public disorder is likely to be occasioned". (Art. 19).
For the last thirteen years it has, therefore been an
offence under our own public order legislation to display "anything"
– including the Union flag itself – in a public place, if its display is intended
or is likely to cause a breach of the peace or public disorder.
Although this legislation has been on the statute book
for that length of time, its implications do not seem to be widely understood.
It means that the tricolour can lawfully be flown in nationalist and republican
areas, since it is obviously not "likely to cause a breach of the peace
or public disorder" in those areas. The converse is also true in that the
flying of the Union flag in such areas would be likely to cause a breach of
the peace; a Union Jack cannot, therefore, be lawfully flown in nationalist
or republican areas.
Flags from Government Buildings
The legal position about the flag flying from government
buildings is even less well understood. Until Peter Mandelson introduced the
Flags (N.I.) Order in the House of Commons on 16th May 2000, there
had been no legislation requiring the Union flag to be flown from government
buildings.
This legal loophole was revealed during the first term
of devolved administration last autumn, when the two Sinn Fein Ministers were
asked by civil servants if they wished the Union flag to be flown on the usual
flag-flying days. As we know only too well, they refused to fly the flag. But
how could they?
Quite simply, they could refuse to fly the Union flag
over their departments, because there was no law compelling them to do so. Instead,
it had been custom and practice, through the exercise of the royal prerogative,
to fly the Union flag from government buildings on certain designated flag-flying
days. In Northern Ireland, it has been the custom and practice over many years
to fly the Union flag on 20 designated flag flying days, mostly royal birthdays.
With devolved government restored here in early June and
with no less than three flag-flying days in that month, Unionists had once again
to endure the repeated offence caused by the sign of bare flagpoles at both
the Department of Education and the Department of Health.
The serious problems, raised by the refusal of the two
Sinn Fein Ministers to fly the flag of the country, have now to be resolved
by the Secretary of State making regulations under the Flags (N.I.) Order 2000,
since the Assembly and Executive failed to on flag-flying procedures before
the summer recess.
In bringing forward for consultation the Flags Regulations
(Northern Ireland) 2000, Peter Mandelson described them as "a sensitive,
common-sense way forward". Legislation – in the form of these Flags Regulations
– will prevail over the royal prerogative, and so the previous legal loophole
exploited by the two Sinn Fein Ministers should be filled. But is it?
Taking the Belfast Agreement as the foundation, two apparently
conflicting provisions have to be reconciled. First, the Agreement makes it
absolutely clear that
"Northern Ireland in its entirety remains part of
the United Kingdom and shall not cease to be so without the consent of a majority
of the people of Northern Ireland".
This fundamental principle of consent was subsequently
enshrined in legislative form by section 1 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998,
which implements the Belfast Agreement.
Secondly, it is also stated in the Agreement that
"All participants acknowledge the sensitivity of
the use of symbols and emblems for public purposes, and the need in particular
in creating the new institutions to ensure that such symbols and emblems are
used in a manner which promotes mutual respect rather than division." [See
para. 5 of "Rights, Safeguards and Equality of Opportunity", p. 20]
Both the consent principle and the need to use symbols
with sensitivity have to be honoured in the new Flags Regulations.
Consequently, the SDLP’s suggestion that a neutral flag
should be agreed and flown on government buildings is wholly unacceptable in
that it fails completely to honour the principle of consent as expressed in
the opening paragraph of the Belfast Agreement. The constitutional status of
Northern Ireland is not neutral. On the contrary, the constitutional status
of Northern Ireland is unambiguously stated as being "in its entirety"
part of the United Kingdom. The flying of the Union flag from government buildings
is the clear expression of that constitutional position.
Likewise, Sinn Fein’s demand that both the tricolour and
the Union flag be flown together on Government buildings clearly breaches the
Belfast Agreement. The Agreement neither agrees nor advocates joint sovereignty.
Instead, the Agreement makes it abundantly clear that it is the United Kingdom
and the United Kingdom alone, which has sovereignty over Northern Ireland unless
and until a majority of its people consents otherwise.
There is, therefore, no basis whatsoever in the Belfast
Agreement for the flying of both the Union flag and the tricolour routinely
on such buildings, or another flag other than the Union flag on all Government
Buildings.
The Flags Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2000 recognise
the constitutional position of Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom
by making it a duty – rather than a discretion – that the Union flag be flown
on 7 designated buildings on exactly the same designated days as in the rest
of the Kingdom.
Prior to these Regulations, it had been custom and practice
in Northern Ireland – though not adhered to by Sinn Fein – to fly the Union
flag on government buildings 20 days. These included the 15 days (mostly royal
birthdays) as designated in the rest of the United Kingdom, plus the 4 so-called
"Dublin Days" as well as 12th July. The 4 "Dublin
Days" were – Christmas Day, New Year’s Day, Easter Sunday and St. Patrick’s
Day. These 4 days were added by the Stormont Cabinet in 1927, and only in 1933
was 12th July also added as a flag-flying day.
The logical consequence of the consent principle is that
the Union flag should be flown on government buildings on the same basis as
in the rest of the Kingdom. This means, as the Flags Regulations make clear,
that we shall lose 3 of the 4 additional "Dublin Days" and also lose
12th of July.
Since the Union flag is flown on the relevant Saint’s
Day in the various parts of the Kingdom – (St. David’s Day in Wales, St. Andrew’s
Day in Scotland etc) – the flag will continue to fly here on St. Patrick’s Day.
Christmas Day, New Year’s Day, Easter Sunday and 12th July have never been
flag-flying days in the rest of the United Kingdom; they will, therefore,
cease to be such in Northern Ireland. ( Note that with Prince Edward’s marriage,
his wife’s birthday in January has now been added to the list of designated
days. There will, therefore, be an overall net loss of 3 flag days.)
By accepting the 17 flag-flying days as specified by the
Flags Regulations, the SDLP and Sinn Fein will be honouring their obligation
in the Belfast Agreement to show "sensitivity" and "promote mutual
respect rather than division". By seeking to deny the majority in Northern
Ireland the legitimate expression of their British identity through the flying
of the Union flag on government buildings on the same days as in the rest of
the U.K., Sinn Fein and the SDLP have hitherto demonstrated total insensitivity
without a shred of "mutual respect" are obligations on all
participants; it must be a two-way process.
By comparison, Article 9 of the Flags Regulations shows
the British Government’s "sensitivity" in the use of symbols and "mutual
respect" as required by the Agreement. Under Article 9 … "no flag
shall be flown at any government building at any time", except as provided
by these Regulations. Designating a maximum of 17 days out of 365 days in the
year clearly indicates that, while upholding the constitutional position of
Northern Ireland, the British Government has no intention of flaunting the Union
flag.
In also allowing for the national flag of the country
of a visiting Head of State to be flown, the British Government has again fulfilled
its obligations under the Belfast Agreement by showing sensitivity and mutual
respect.
Article 3(1) of the new Flags Regulations permits the
Union flag to be flown at a government building visited by a foreign Head of
State. On such occasions, it is discretion, not a duty, to fly the Union flag.
Article 3(2) states clearly that only if that discretion is exercised to fly
the Union Jack and only if the buildings has two flag poles may the national
flag of the visiting Head of State also be flown.
The logical consequence of this provision is that, for
example, in the event of a visit to a government building by the President of
the Republic of Ireland, the tricolour may be flown … but only when the Union
flag is flown and only where there are two flagpoles. Since the Republic of
Ireland has abandoned the offensive Articles 2 and 3 of its Constitution laying
claim to the territory of Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland may now
be treated like any other foreign country.
At the same time, and crucially, to avoid the obvious
perception on such occasions of joint sovereignty, which is contrary to the
Belfast Agreement, it is essential that, as in the case of the European flag,
the tricolour (and any other foreign flag) should be flown lower than the Union
flag. It is imperative that the position of the foreign flag should be reconsidered,
especially since Article 8 of the Flags Regulations permits the national flag
of the visiting Head of State to … " be flown in the same manner
on the same day at any other government building which has more than
one flagpole, provided that the Union flag is also flown".
The possible outcome of this provision is that, in the
event of a visit by President Mary McAleese to Rathgael House, we could see
a rash of tricolours at equal height alongside the Union flag at various Department
of Education buildings. Such an outcome would be completely at variance with
Northern Ireland’s constitutional status as laid down by the Belfast Agreement.
Again, it is worth repeating that there is no joint sovereignty of Northern
Ireland. It is wholly unacceptable, therefore, to have the tricolour flown "in
the same manner" on a government building as the Union flag. This provision
of the Flags Regulations must be amended.
So, too must Article 2(2) of the Flag Regulations. This
provision requires the Union flag to be flown on the 17 designated days at "any
other government building at which it was the practice to fly the Union flag
… in the period of 12 months ending with 30th November 1999".
The wording of this particular Article is deeply worrying
because it contains two serious flaws. To identify the first of these, one must
search for the definition of "government buildings". It is certainly
not included in the Flags Regulations themselves. Instead, the definition of
"government buildings" was laid down earlier this year on 18th
May by the Flags (Northern Ireland) Order 2000. In it, a "government
building" is defined as "wholly or mainly occupied by members of the
Northern Ireland civil service".
This narrow definition will exclude the main seat of government
in Northern Ireland; Parliament Buildings at Stormont will not qualify as "government
buildings", as they are not "wholly or mainly occupied" by civil
servants. Although it had been the practice to fly the Union flag on Parliament
Buildings in the 12 months ending with 30th November 1999, these
buildings will nevertheless fall through the gap in Article "(2) for the
simple, but obscure reason, that they do not fall within the statutory definition
of "government buildings". It is not acceptable to Unionists that
there is no duty under the Flags Regulations to fly the flag of this country
over the main seat of government.
The second serious flaw in Article 2(2) of the Flags Regulations
relates to future "government buildings". This Article only
imposes a duty on "government buildings" to fly the Union flag where
it had been their practice to do so in the "12 months preceding 30th
November 1999". It would inevitably follow from this provision that, if
civil servants were to be moved from, for example, Rathgael House and into buildings
elsewhere, those new government buildings cannot have had a past practice
of flying the Union flag in the 12 months prior to the end of November 1999,
they will also fall through the gap in Article 2(2).
We note also the case of the Interpoint Centre (present
headquarters of DCAL) which is omitted from the designated list.
As presently drafted, the Flags Regulations impose no
obligation to fly the Union flag from future government buildings. Once again,
Article 2(2) is unacceptable – the Union flag is the constitutional symbol of
Northern Ireland’s status within the United Kingdom, and as such it should be
recognised visibly by the flying of the Union flag on the 17 designated days
on all future government buildings.
Finally, the absence of sanctions from the Flags Regulations
is unsatisfactory. What happens if a Government Minister fails to comply with
the requirements of the Flags Regulations? Is it sufficient to rely upon each
Minister’s Pledge of Office whereby he/she undertakes … "to discharge in
good faith all the duties of office"?
At present, the Flags Regulations do not even mention
the words "Minister" or "duty". To avoid any misunderstanding,
these Regulations should clarify the Minister’s position by reference to his/her
Pledge of Office.
Ministers and Government Departments should also take
note that the Human Rights Acts 1998 comes into force on 2nd October
2000. Included amongst the rights regarded as fundamental is the right to freedom
of expression:
"This right shall include freedom to hold opinions…
without interference by public authority..."
Neither a Minister nor a Northern Ireland department has
any power "to do any act" in so far as that act is incompatible with
any of the fundamental rights laid down by the Human Rights Act. (See section
24 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998). By refusing to fly the Union flag on the
17 designated days from the specified government buildings, Ministers and/or
Departments run the risk of a legal challenge under the new Human Rights legislation.
The flying of flags by Public Authorities, especially
District Councils
"Public authorities" include a very wide range
of bodies – Health and Social Service Boards, Health and Social Services Trusts,
all District Councils, Education and Library Boards, N.I. Housing Executive
and the Tourist Board are but a few examples.
Since the Flag Regulations only extend to "government
buildings", which are buildings "wholly or mainly occupied by members
of the Northern Ireland Civil Service", District Council offices cannot
benefit directly from these Regulations. Given the absence of specific legislation
on flag flying by District Councils, this may well become an area fraught with
difficulty.
Consequently, in determining the appropriate days and
locations for the flying of flags an emblems, District Councils must pay particular
attention to their own statutory obligations under two very important pieces
of legislation:
- Northern Ireland Act 1998, which implemented the Belfast
Agreement, and
- The Fair Employment and Treatment (N.I.) Order 1998.
Conclusion
The UUP recognises these Draft Regulations as a step towards
closing loopholes with respect to flag flying. They attempt to place official
flag flying here on the same footing as the rest of the United Kingdom.
"I believe that practice in Northern Ireland should
reflect practice elsewhere in the United Kingdom". (Lord Falconer of Thoroton,
Hansard, House of Lords, 5th series, vol.613, col.208, 16
May 2000).
Notwithstanding these benefits there are still questions
of detail and causes for concern.
AD HOC COMMITTEE ON DRAFT REGULATIONS PROPOSED
UNDER THE FLAGS (NORTHERN IRELAND) ORDER 2000
WRITTEN SUBMISSION BY:
Social Democratic and
Labour Party
Introduction
1. The SDLP recognises that the issue of flags is
a difficult and divisive one. The issue requires to be managed with sensitivity,
is guided by principle and is in the best interests of all in a divided community.
These are high objectives. The SDLP submits that a path can be charted to achieve
them.
Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement.
2. The SDLP submits that judgement on this issue should
be informed by two texts. First, "The Belfast Agreement: and Agreement
reached at the Multi-Party Talks on Northern Ireland" (commonly referred
to as the "Good Friday Agreement" and hereinafter referred to as the
"Agreement") provides clear and compelling principles which should
inform and can lead to a solution to this issue, a solution which respects the
identity of each citizen and community. Second, the SDLP would refer to the
obligations placed on the Government and particularly on the British Government
by the "between the Government of the United Kingdom, of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland and the Government of Northern Ireland, (hereinafter referred
to as the ‘Agreement between Governments’).
3. In the section of the Agreement which deals with
"Constitutional Issues", a number of principles are endorsed. In the
particular context of this consultation, this submission would refer to the
principles outlined at paragraphs 1(iii), 1(v), and 1(vi), where the parties
to the Agreement:
"1(iii) acknowledge that while a substantial section
of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of a majority of
the people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of
a majority of the people of Northern Ireland , freely exercised and legitimate,
is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as
part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would
be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the
consent of the majority of its people;"
"1(iv) affirm that whatever choice is freely exercised
by a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, the power of the sovereign
government with jurisdiction there shall be exercised with rigorous impartiality
on behalf of all the people in the diversity of their identities and traditions
and shall be founded on the principles of full respect for, and equality of,
civil, political, social and cultural rights, of freedom from discrimination
for all citizens, and of parity of esteem and of just and equal treatment for
the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities;"
"1(vi) recognise the birthright of all the people
of Northern Ireland to identify themselves as Irish or British, or both, as
they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British
and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and not be affected by
any future change in the status of Northern Ireland."
The SDLP would also refer to Article 1(iii), 1(v) and
1(vi) of the "Agreement between Goverments" which states:
"1(iii) acknowledge that while a substantial section
of the people in Northern Ireland share the legitimate wish of the majority
of people of the island of Ireland for a united Ireland, the present wish of
a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate,
is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland’s status as
part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would
be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the
consent of a majority of its people;"
"1(v) affirm that whatever choice is freely exercised
by a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, the power of the sovereign
government with jurisdiction there shall be exercised with rigorous impartiality
on behalf of all the people in the diversity of their identities and traditions
and shall be founded on the principles of full respect for, and equality of,
civil, political, social and cultural rights, of freedom from discrimination
for all citizens, and of parity of esteem and of just and equal treatment for
the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities;"
"1(vi) recognise the birthright of all the people
of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British,
or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to
hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and
would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland."
4. It is submitted that in considering this issue the
above principles should be upheld and reflected in the draft regulations. It
is submitted that the Agreement between Governments has the standing of an international
treaty binding in law with the legal and broader consequences of same.
5. It is argued that paragraphs 1(ii) of ‘the Agreement’
and the ‘Agreement between Governments’ respectively (hereinafter referred to
as "the Agreements") above, which details the constitutional position
of Northern Ireland and what is commonly referred to as "the principle
of consent", means that the Union flag should fly from government buildings
in Northern Ireland on designated days, as is the case in and to be generally
consistent with practice in Scotland or England/Wales. The SDLP accepts paragraphs
1(iii) but submits that it is incorrect to interpret the Agreements in this
way for a number of reasons.
6. First, Northern Ireland cannot be compared with
England and Wales or Scotland:
(a) Northern Ireland is a divided society, emerging
from many years of conflict. The division has been around issues of national
identity, political aspiration and community treatment. In this context, to
interpret the constitutional position and the principle of consent so as to
enable the display of only the Union flag on government buildings on designated
days suggests that one national identity, political aspiration and community
requirement has a standing legally and practically, over those of others.
(b) The existence of the Agreements demonstrate that
Northern Ireland is not comparable with England Scotland or Wales:
- Uniquely among regions, Northern Ireland has the guaranteed
right in law to opt out of the Union should a majority desire this;
- Uniquely among regions, the constitutional arrangements
for Northern Ireland were laid down in an international treaty between two
sovereign governments and were approved by the people of Ireland, North and
South, in a referendum.
7. Second, beyond the broad political and legal arguments
outlined above, it is submitted that the approach of some, who invoke constitutional
principles referred to in the Agreements to justify the display of the Union
flag on government buildings is a misinterpretation of both.
8. Paragraph one of the Agreement on "Constitutional
Issues" and Article 1 of the Agreement between Governments lays down a
number of principles. It is submitted in determining this issue that those principles
should be considered in their totality and that each principle should be considered
no less important than the other. It is submitted as follows:
(a) The
relevant sections of the Agreements recognise the right:
" of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify
themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or, both as they may so choose"
and " affirms that the power of the sovereign government shall be founded
on the principles of …..parity of esteem and of the just and equal treatment
for the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities."
It is submitted that, for example, the display of the
Union flag is clearly identified with the Unionist community, with the Union
with Britain and with those who would refer to themselves as British. To display
the Union flag – or for that matter the Irish Tricolour alone – is contrary
to the above principle and good practice. It should be noted that this argument
is not outlined so as to suggest that in the treatment of issues of identity
– flag, language etc – there should always be the same treatment at all times
and in all ways. This may not be appropriate in political terms , feasible in
financial terms or practical in real terms. This submission elaborates on this
perspective at paragraph (12) of this preliminary response.
(b) Moreover, to display the Union flag on government
buildings only does not accord "just and equal treatment to the identity,
ethos and aspirations" of the nationalist community. In addition, it is
submitted that the display of the Union flag only on government buildings
does not respect the right "to be accepted as Irish."
(c) Paragraph 5 of the Section of the Agreement on
"Rights , Safeguards and Equality of Opportunity" provides that:
" All participants acknowledge the sensitivity of
the use of symbols and emblems for public purposes, and the need in particular
in creating the new institutions to ensure that such symbols and emblems are
used in a manner which promotes mutual respect rather than division. Arrangements
will be made to monitor this issue and consider what action might be required."
The flying of the flag to which one community in Northern
Ireland identifies, but another does not, is not sensitive. Nor does it promote
mutual respect rather than division. The above principles need to be fully addressed
and implemented in determining this matter.
Options on the Display of Flags
9. The SDLP has approached this issue with sensitivity,
sought a consensus on the issue and not rushed precipitously into declining
to fly the Union flag on government buildings on designated days. It is submitted
that the approach adopted by the SDLP on this issue adds authority to the position
proposed herein by the party. It should also be recorded that it is a matter
of disappointment that it was decided, during suspension of the institutions,
that the Secretary of State acquired the power to regulate the flying of flags.
This was compounded by the fact that this was a matter which by right fell to
the devolved administration – and it alone – to determine. This approach by
the Secretary of State has not created the environment or, arguably, the will
on the part of some to work to resolve the issue.
10. There are four options for addressing this issue,
which it has been argued are consistent with the Agreements:
(a) flying of no flags on government buildings;
(b) flying both the Union flag and the Irish Tricolour;
(c) creating new consensual symbols with which both unionists and nationalists
could identify;
(d) acknowledge that the principles of the Agreements may enable consideration
of the display of the Union flag and Irish Tricolour together and, where appropriate,
display of the Union flag or Irish Tricolour only on restricted days and on
restricted buildings by agreement.
11. The SDLP is prepared to consider each of these
options. It is recognised that the display of both flags would at this time
be viewed by unionists as not sensitive to their concerns and that, also, in
the current circumstances, it may be difficult to secure agreement on consensual
symbols. However, the SDLP would wish to explore further these options in order
to satisfactorily resolve this issue.
12. The SDLP remains committed to develop this issue
in a creative and constructive manner. Therefore, and elaborating on 10(d) above,
it has been argued that it is not necessarily valid that the same outcome is
achieved on all aspects of expression of different identities in Northern Ireland.
Indeed, it is argued by some that parity of esteem could allow for different,
as well as the same circumstances, to apply in relation to issues of identity.
In this context, a situation could arise where there would be different, as
well as same circumstances, applying to the display of the Union flag and to
the Irish Tricolour. If different as well as same circumstances, could apply
to the display of flags, it would then be a matter of agreeing when and where
they could be displayed, either together or separately, ensuring that there
is no unreasonable differential between the occasions when , for example, the
Union flag and the Irish Tricolour would be displayed separately. It would help
inform this issue, if this option was to be explored further.
However, an environment to consider all options can best
be developed if there is a determination arising from the present consultation
consistent with paragraph 8(a), (b) and (c) respectively of this submission.
13. At the present, however, the SDLP favours, as an
interim step, in the current environment and to act consistent with the Agreements
the option of flying no flags. This is not a resolution to the issue. It reflects
realities without closing down opportunities, treats both communities in Northern
Ireland equally and is consistent, not only with the principle of just and equal
treatment for the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities, but also
with the right of people in Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted
as Irish or British or both. The SDLP believes that this is the preferred method
to proceed. However, the SDLP repeats that this is not a resolution of this
issue and will continue to seek to explore methods of advancing the other options
and addressing concerns.
14. At this time, it appears government will propose
that the Union flag only should be displayed on government buildings. As previously
outlined, the SDLP is not in favour of this proposal. If government is determined
to pursue this issue, the SDLP believes that the Union flag should not be displayed
on Departmental buildings, that display should be on a restricted number of
other government buildings and that display should be on a restricted number
of days.
North-South/British-Irish Meeting
15. In an attempt to address the issue in a constructive
and creative way and as an example of the thinking which informs paragraph 10(d),
the SDLP submits that it is appropriate that both the Union flag and Irish Tricolour
should be displayed at appropriate British-Irish and North-South meetings respectively
arising under the Good Friday Agreement.
The SDLP believes that to do so:
- is consistent with the principles outlined in the Agreements
- is a sensitive expression of identity in a way that
should not cause undue anxiety to the community
- enables this issue to be developed in a constructive
manner and create understanding and respectful relations.
The SDLP therefore proposes the display of both the Union
flag and Irish Tricolour on buildings during the conduct of meetings of:
- the British-Irish Council
- the North-South Ministerial Council
- North-South Bodies
- and other meetings of the British-Irish and North-South
institutions established under the Agreements.
Review
16. The SDLP submits that the issue of display of flags
should be kept under periodic review. Review is consistent with and a requirement
of the Good Friday Agreement. Moreover, a more consensual approach to the display
of flags on government buildings may emerge in time and periodic review of this
issue may create some impetus in this regard. In addition, the SDLP submits
that the proposed regulations should be time-limited, being for one year only
in the first instance.
Conclusion
17. The SDLP notes that there have also been significant
developments in terms of culture awareness and mutual tolerance in recent years.
There are many images and headlines that suggest otherwise, but, in general,
this assertion holds. It should be recognised that, as a society, we have not
developed to the point of mutual acceptance or toleration of the flags, emblems
and symbols that reflect and represent our different identities. The SDLP believes
that our society will reach that level of awareness whereby respective flags,
symbols and emblems will be honoured or that common flags , symbols and emblems
will be agreed.
18. To do so requires an environment whereby the Agreements
are and are seen to be upheld; that its principles are respected; that difficult
judgements are made consistent with the intention of the Agreements; that each
citizen and community knows that that which good government, the Agreements
and a stable community requires will be implemented.
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Democratic Unionist Party
Introduction
The fact that this issue should ever arise is indicative
of the folly of the Belfast Agreement. It is by virtue of the unaccountable
authority vested in Ministers that this situation has been allowed to occur.
The Union Flag is the flag of the United Kingdom and should be accorded its
place on Government Buildings.
The proposed regulations fail to fully respect the constitutional
position of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom. They prohibit the flying
of the Union Flag on all but the specified days and leave various issues in
the hands of unaccountable Government Ministers.
Below are listed a series of propositions, which are submitted
for the purpose of consideration by the Assembly Committee with a view to being
incorporated into the regulations.
Propositions
- The Union Flag is a constitutional symbol recognised
internationally. As an integral part of the United Kingdom the Union Flag is
therefore the constitutional symbol for Northern Ireland and should be accorded
no less standing and acknowledgement than in any other part of the Kingdom.
- The Union Flag shall be flown on all Government Buildings
on the specified days.
- The specified days will be those days on which it was
the practice to fly the Union Flag in the period of the 12 months ending with
30th November 1999.
- No other State’s flag, except with the express permission
of the Assembly, shall be flown on Government Buildings.
- The Union Flag shall be flown in the manner and style
which was the practice in the period of the 12 months ending with 30th November.
- Where the flag was not previously flown over a Government
Building the flag should be flown in the manner it is flown at other Government
Buildings.
- The premises officer shall be appointed to ensure the
flag is flown in the manner and on the days required. This responsibility shall
be a duty of his service.
- The European Flag shall not be flown, except with the
express permission of the Assembly.
- There shall be no prohibition on the flying of the Union
Flag on Government Buildings at any time.
- The Union Flag shall be flown at Parliament Buildings,
Stormont on all plenary sitting days of the Assembly.
- The Union Flag shall be flown at half mast on all Government
Buildings following the death of a member of the Royal Family, or of a serving
or former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom on such days as notified in
the Belfast Gazette.
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Sinn Fein
The recent announcement by the British Secretary of State
of his intention to take upon himself – through an undemocratic ‘Order in Council’
– the role of arbiter in the dispute over the flying of flags is not acceptable.
In no circumstance can Peter Mandelson put himself forward as a neutral referee
in this case.
Mr Mandelson’s announced intention is to create a mechanism
that would in effect restrict the exercise of authority by Ministers on this
matter subsequent to their appointment. This is very obviously bad faith on
the part of the British government.
The British flag, whatever political allegiance to Britain
it may convey, has been used by unionism as a symbol of political dominance
and a tool of sectarian coat-trailing.
All of this was best summed up by the late, eminent human
rights lawyer P J McGrory, who wrote about life for nationalists in the northern
state. He wrote:
"A substantial component of the nationalist nightmare….is
the overwhelming feeling of living in an alien and hostile environment."
"All around them, nationalists, on a daily basis,
see the ordinary institutions of an ordered society proclaiming a loyalty and
an allegiance which they do not share, by which they feel oppressed, strangers
in their own land."
"The police force is ‘royal’, the law courts are
‘royal’, the mail is ‘royal’."
"At public functions and entertainment open to all,
the British anthem is played, at public and even private functions organised
by societies or other bodies having substantial nationalist membership, a royal
toast is honoured."
"The flag over public buildings, and over nationalist
members, and over such diverse places as theatres, railway stations and hospitals,
is the union flag."
"By way of contrast…the Irish flag and anthem are,
in the main, viewed with public distaste, and police display a marked enthusiasm
for removing the flag from display, and prosecuting those who show it publicly
in all but very confined areas."
The norms applied to the flying of flags at government
buildings in Britain are not appropriate to the north of Ireland.
The north of Ireland is not "as British as Finchley".
The unique nature of the Good Friday agreement and the
circumstances and conditions which gave rise to its negotiations are testimony
to that fact.
The Good Friday negotiations were about tackling all of
this and more.
The principles and positions agreed between the parties
and the two governments at Castle Buildings at Easter 1998 were about mapping
out a framework which would ensure equality and respect from and for all citizens,
as well as defending and protecting human rights and civil liberties.
Any approach to the issue of flags should be set firmly
within the context of the Good Friday agreement.
Paragraph 1 of the Good Friday agreement’s Declaration
of Support reads:
"We…believe that the agreement we have negotiated
offers a truly historic opportunity for a new beginning."
With regard to the issue of symbols and emblems the agreement
also embraced the sense of a new beginning.
"All participants acknowledge the sensitivity of
the use of symbols and emblems for public purposes and the need in particular
in creating the new institutions to ensure that such symbols and emblems are
used in a manner which promotes mutual respect rather than division."
"Arrangements will be made to monitor this issue
and consider what action might be required."
Regrettably no formal monitoring arrangement was agreed
or made.
The upshot of this was the Order in Council – Flags Order
2000, which gives the British secretary of state the powers to make regulations
for "the flying of flags at Government Buildings".
The Secretary of State’s draft Regulation also contradicts
the Fair Employment Code of Practice (5.2.2), as applied in the 1995 case of
Brennan v Short Brothers PLC, where the Tribunal stated "…employees do
not have to tolerate reminders or suggestions that particular religious beliefs
or political opinions have a special place in the ir workplace…It has to be
emphasised as often as is necessary that anything which identifies community
allegiance needs justification in the workplace."
This is reinforced by section 75(1) of the Northern Ireland
Act which imposes a statutory duty on all public bodies to promote equality
of opportunity and good relations.
The agreement should be the philosophy that informs any
decisions taken on the issue of flags.
It is a contract between enemies and opponents who hold
to different political allegiances. Parity of esteem, equality, inclusivity
and the promotion of mutual respect should underpin future decisions on the
flying of flags at government and public buildings.
Therefore, where British cultural symbols are involved
in public life, equivalent Irish cultural and political symbols should be given
equal prominence.
If agreement or consensus cannot be found on this, then
a reasonable alternative, which fits the required criteria, is to suspend the
flying of flags until such agreement or consensus can be found.
In summary, the position on the flying of flags at government
buildings and public buildings should be an equality scenario, or a neutrality
scenario. The Secretary of State’s draft Regulations do not address this in
any constructive way and should be rejected.
What is clearly required is a new beginning on this issue.
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The Alliance Party of
Northern Ireland
Background
Any proposal for the flying of flags in Northern Ireland
should take account of differing views within Northern Ireland society, as well
as precedent in other parts of the UK. The following points appear relevant:
- The Good Friday Agreement recognises that Northern Ireland
is a deeply divided society, that mutual respect should guide this society’s
approach to the use of symbols and that symbols are not to be used to stress
dominance and exclusion. The Agreement also entrenches the Principle of Consent:
that Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK unless and until its people
decide otherwise.
- The Scottish Parliament flies both the Union Flag and
the Saltire, while the National Assembly for Wales flies the Union Flag, the
Welsh Flag and the European Flag every day of the year.
- There is, as yet, no agreed symbol for Northern Ireland
comparable to the red dragon or the Saltire. The flag of the former government
of Northern Ireland is not widely acceptable. However, the adoption of the
flax flowers by the Assembly is a healthy precedent and attempts should continue
to find a new symbol for the region which could gain broad acceptability.
- Within Northern Ireland, the Irish tricolour is not
comparable to the Scottish or Welsh flags. Its regular use alongside the Union
Flag would have two negative effects: first, it would imply that there was
joint sovereignty and second, it would suggest that the Union Flag represented
one section of the community while the tricolour represented another, entrenching
divisions and harming the prospect of greater pluralism.
Principles
Alliance believes that any Regulations for flying flags
on government buildings should:
- recognise the Principle of Consent;
- minimise feelings of either dominance or exclusion;
and
- promote pluralism and those symbols which unite the
community.
Draft Regulations
Alliance therefore broadly welcomes the Draft Regulations
referred to the Assembly by the Secretary of State on 8 September. The following
constitutes an initial response:
Regulation 2:
Provision could be made for the flying of St Patrick’s
Flag on 17 March, on the same basis as the European Flag on 9 May. Suggested
wording:
2 (5) Where a government building specified in Part I
of the Schedule has more than one flag pole, St Patrick’s Flag shall be flown
in addition to the Union Flag on St Patrick’s Day.
Amending Regulation 2 would also affect 5 (1) (a).
Amend to read "where regulation 2(4), 2(5) or 3(2)
.."
Regulation7:
The inclusion of a reference to Regulation 3 (1) appears
unnecessary and divisive.
Regulation 8:
The inclusion of a reference to Regulation 3 (2) appears
unnecessary and divisive, but 2(5) should be included.
Schedule Part II:
The removal of 12th July is welcome as a means of reducing
feelings of exclusion.
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UNITED UNIONIST ASSEMBLY
PARTY
INTRODUCTION
The United Unionist Group in the Northern Ireland Assembly
was opposed to the Belfast Agreement, and one of its principal concerns was
the threat to the constitutional position of Northern Ireland within the United
Kingdom. The vast majority of citizens in Northern Ireland wish to maintain
that link and one of the most visible and outward expressions of their position
is the flying of the Union Flag.
We are told that the Belfast Agreement recognises the
right of the majority of people in Northern Ireland to retain the link with
the United Kingdom on the basis of the consent principle. The mere fact that
the flying of the Union Flag in Northern Ireland is an issue would imply that
there are those who have signed up to the Belfast Agreement who do not recognise
the Principle of Consent, and so, when the Union Flag ceases to fly over the
Government Buildings, it sends out dangerous signals to the Unionist community.
In Wales and Scotland there is no difficulty in the flying
of the Union Flag over their National Assembly and Parliament Buildings, yet
powers have been devolved in exactly the same way.
While recognising that the Welsh and Scottish flags fly
alongside the Union Flag, the Irish Tricolour, as the flag of a foreign nation,
cannot be seen in a comparable way. We would also add that we fully acknowledge
that the Union Flag and the Irish Tricolour have been flown and used in an offensive
way.
Nevertheless, there is real concern within the Protestant
and Unionist community that the issue necessitates any kind of discussion –
the flying of the national flag should never merit negotiation at all. In a
divided society like Northern Ireland, the symposium of the issue serves to
underline the lack of confidence in a process that is increasingly perceived
in our community as a course of action aimed at eroding the rights of the majority.
The importance and symbolism in the flying of the Union Flag cannot be over
emphasised.
Many Unionists already believe they are alienated and
feel like ‘strangers in our own land’. In a democracy there should be equal
rights for all, but the rights and wishes of the majority cannot, and must not,
continue to be eroded or destroyed in order to satisfy the needs of a vociferous
minority.
This matter cannot be seen as an equality issue, neither
can there be any argument about neutrality. These are bogus assertions which
would ultimately, if given any credence, result in discrimination against the
wishes of the majority.
There is a line of reasoning that the Union Flag and the
Irish Tricolour are expressions of two cultures, however this argument should
be separated from the constitutional one. In pure constitutional terms, if the
consent principle in the Belfast Agreement is to mean anything, Northern Ireland
is part of the United Kingdom and the flag of the UK is the Union Flag.
REGULATIONS
While we have no difficulty with the Union Flag flying
on St. Patrick’s day, it should be noted that one section of the community has
‘hijacked’ this day to promote its own culture and could be seen to contrast
with the exclusion of the flying of the Union Flag on the 12th July.
We also believe that the Union Flag should be flown on
the 1st July on the anniversary of the Battle of the Somme when soldiers from
all over Ireland, both Protestant and Roman Catholic gave their lives in the
Great War.
It is with disappointment that we note that Parliament
Buildings is omitted from the list of specified Government Buildings, and in
accordance with the Scottish and Welsh Assemblies, believe that the Union Flag
should also be flown at Stormont and preferably on all sitting days.
It is also a matter of some concern that whilst the regulations
stipulate occasions when the Union Flag ‘shall be flown’, we have in the past
experienced an absence of the Union Flag on designated days at certain government
buildings. Nowhere in the regulations is there provision to deal with such an
incident or specification as to how the offending Minister shall be reprimanded
should his / her department not fly the flag in accorda |